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21 March 2003 @ 10:15 am
 
This is some of my thoughts about the war. Also about Lord of the rings, which I feel is intrinsically connected.


LuxuryProb: what do people over there think about this whole thing?
Me: um
Me: bush is stupid
Me: alot of non americans say that the worst part is that it hurts american citizens
Me: like
Me: bush can do whatever he wants, because he's never going to leave texas
Me: but like
Me: people who dont have that luxury
Friend on AIM: yea
Me: like who travel or something
Me: are just going to get spit upon
Me: i want to meet someone from iraq
Friend on AIM: yea
Me: it would be nice if like this made some headway into the middle east
Me: so that the US could come and rebuilt/brainwash Iraq like they did japan
Friend on AIM: yea, things are pretty fucked up there
Me: the thing is
Me: bush is working againts over 3000 years of petty fighting
Friend on AIM: yea and hes not gonna be able to solve it
Friend on AIM: not at all
Me: especially by fighitng more
Me: what it needs is like educataion and stuff
Me: but it's hard because one of the problems is the ideology is so different
Friend on AIM: i dont know what the middle east needs
Me: so its like
Me: how can you justify that non iraq way of thinking is better
Me: when it's all realitive
Me: and just what you were taught as you were growing up
Friend on AIM: theres jsut so much deep seated, and ingrained hate and corruption and lots of it is based on things like religion which people dont just get convinced, or educated or fought out of
Me: yeah
Me: that's why
Me: if they are just totally rebuilt from the ground up
Me: with values more applicable to the international society
Me: that would help
Friend on AIM: but again, who are we, or anyone to determine what values a certain people should have
Me: yeah
Friend on AIM: i mean, yea suicide bombings and shit arent exactly diplomatic
Friend on AIM: but its their fight, ya know
Me: yeah
Me: like
Me: its all realitive
Me: i keep thinking about aragorn in the hells keep
Me: or whatever
Me: doing whatever to escape the vastly more powerfull sauron army
Friend on AIM: yea
Friend on AIM: thats an interesting analogy
Friend on AIM: i can kind of see it
Me: there are differences
Friend on AIM: but its less good and evil
Me: yeah
Me: but that's probaly how iraq feels
Friend on AIM: yea
Me: like american is out to just destroy its way of thinking and culture and stuff
Me: so it can take over the world
Friend on AIM: yea, it is kind of like that
Me: and the humans are just like weak retarded people
Me: weak and frightened
Me: and the fellowship is like the 9-11 attakcers
Me: desperate to do whatever they can to make a strike against the impervoius country of evil and domination
Me: knowing they will probably die
Me: it's not too much different
Me: like...
Me: a rebellion is a rebellion
Me: whether it is Luke's star wars rebellion, or Bin Ladden's rebellion is a matter of where your seated
 
 
 
Siner Dsirnerd on March 20th, 2003 10:45 pm (UTC)

Well from knowing a couple people who were from Afghanistan and came to America, they both said that they love it here. They still think of back home as home, but they think here as home too. They feel like they were very fortunate to have the opportunity to escape their horrible country and living standards and live here where you can choose what kind of fat you want to eat.

I'd agree more with how America is horrible and stuff, but we really aren't. There's a difference between difference in opinions and people dying and being treated cruelly. I've seen a bunch of documentaries on Afghanistan made by afghanistan people who came to america, and they're like look at this, why would youw ant to live here? And they show villages of people who are living under a tent because the government ransacked the town, stole the men for the army and left the women and children and burned all the buildings and schools down. They don't want people to learn there for some reason.

and i don't think i'm brainwashed because i'm not for this war or any of its loosely defined causes, but I do believe that people like North Korea and Afghanistan and Iraq need a change of rule because it's not that AMerica is just saying "hey we're stronger, live like us." they're actually saying "Hey they treat their citizens very inhumanely and it's fucking wrong, we need to do something." of course bush is saying "Hey I get to be president again if we win the war, and it helps out economy." I'm hoping that america intervenes with north korea, the government there does nothing for their citizens. They jeapordized the entire country by doing this nuclear weapons thing, the only reason North Korea still exists was because of help from outside countries and now they're spitting in their faces.

Of course there are tons of countries like this right now, and the only ones that we focus on are the ones that gain America in some way or will gain America in some way. It's like Dragon Force. THe Gold guy's territory is like dying and everyone is turning into zombies. So the main guy's land is like we can't let this happen! but then the beast men and the samurais are like what are they doing! they're causing trouble! but it's like wait, the gold guy is summoning a huge undead army and it's not really his fault because the zombie people took over him, but now they're killing everyone and no one did anything about it because they were like leave them alone, let them kill their own guys and turn them into zombies.