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14 May 2007 @ 06:21 am
good morning MEGA-FANS!
I'm still at my parent's house having spent the night here because i was tired last night and my laundry wasn't done.
I'm in the living room with Gigantor - Aka the TV that god built, and it's great. LIke, 46 inches, 9 inputs and a fucking great picture quality. only $2500 puts our crappy tv to shame! fucking shame!
We had a fun time getting the old one up the stairs. it must have weighed like over 200 pounds. (not the british kind.) hrm.

So, apparently the furry comunity is up in arms about this episode because "They fear that it represents the entire community as nothing more that a sexual subculture or fetish."
So the question is where do you draw the line between depecting something like this as people being weird and having to "represent" an entire "cultural group". Do the writters have a responsibility to "accurately" depict furries, or do they have a responsibility to make an entertaining program?
Genegdw on May 21st, 2007 02:41 pm (UTC)
The furries are kidding themselves
I'd say that old CSI episode accurately represents the entire community as a culture built primarily around a deep self-loathing and sex. The most inaccurate thing about that CSI episode, as far as I can tell from both non-fiction documentaries on furries and those I have met personally, is that the furries in CSI were, on average, more attractive, less overweight and had better grooming habits than the furry community at large (which pretty much applies to TV's depiction of everyone).

All of the furries I've met so far, seen interviewed, or read their own material, appear to be people who thanks to major, untreated depression & complete inability to successfully interact with people, decide they'd rather be attracted to, or in fact be an animal - as they've constructed some ridiculously idealized image of what their target animal(s) are like (i.e. universally noble, sweet, loyal, and never decietful). Then because of the gaping hole where their self-esteem and interpersonal skills should be, they have largely been denied normal, emotionally fulfilling sexual outlets and embark on a sexual life primarily consisting of getting "yiffy" in anonymous fur-suited sex (so they don't have to look at themselves or others) and wanking to "plushies" and anthropomorphic cartoon pr0n. Not a small number of the furries seem to be self-loathing gay/bi men who can't bring themselves to admit that they're (attracted to/enjoy having sex with) men, but that it's just a coincidence that the people inside the fur suits happen to be male.

I suppose my fairly significant prejudice against furries (oh how I despise them) is something that I just don't feel any need to change - I can't bring myself to validate or approve of a group of people to have built a community around self-loathing not only of themselves, but of their entire species. It's not the sexual fetish that's the problem (whatever floats your boat, just stay away from my pets & stuffed animals), but rather the idea that they would build an entire community/culture around their rejection of their basic humanity and a massively broken (incredibly ignorant and/or cartoon influenced) idea of animal behavior (take a wildlife biology class you morons) makes me sad.
GreenReapergreenreaper on June 4th, 2007 02:37 pm (UTC)
Re: The furries are kidding themselves
It was certainly inaccurate in one respect: Nobody would go to one of the many furry conventions if the lectures were as boring as the suggested. The schedule was all wrong, too!

Humans aren't something to loathe, but they are pretty boring. Who wants to be human on your day off when you can be something cute with a tail, or floppy ears? It doesn't matter that it's not realistic - it's a persona, so the whole point is perception.

A lot of furs have had to study and work hard for a professional job, and they want a chance to be something totally different . . . something more fun and spontaneous, where they can play at being whoever they want to be. Community events are a chance to let their fur down, so to speak, and be with folks of a similar nature (as well as meet all the artists they love and throw money at them for conbadges).

Only 18% of furries have fursuits, and most would be hard to use for interpersonal relationships, so I'm not sure where you get the idea that all sex happens inside of them. The few private parties I've been invited to at conventions revolve around people drinking quite expensive liquids in the company of others they enjoy the company of (ironic, since I don't drink), as opposed to yiffy furpiles. :-)